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Canopy
This page chronicles installation of the canopy - the most
dreaded task of building a RV-8.
First, the canopy slider and canopy frame must be fitted.
Trimmed
the top front skin where the canopy meets it. Had to trim both sides to
slide the canopy full forward. Cut more hose pieces for the canopy
gluing. Got started on cutting the canopy excess but my diamond Dremel
cutter is wearing out and I had to stop - I'll buy a new one tomorrow. The
diamond cutter works very good for cutting the canopy - although it is very
expensive.
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I placed the
uncut canopy on the fuselage to get an idea of where I was heading.
I should have marked a centerline before starting the trimming. |
Finished cutting the canopy and made
the second trim cut on it.
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After the first cut the canopy is still
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It is resting on the front and rear ends of
the canopy. Some say that it is better to trim the front to fit and
then the aft end. However, that advice is coming from tall
guys. I believe I will trim them simultaneously so as to get a more
aerodynamic profile. The rear canopy frame still has to be bent down
until it is within 5/8" to 3/4" of the slider. |
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| Made a second cut on the canopy which allowed
it to sit a little lower. It appears that the Van's markings are
reasonably close to being correct. I'm still going to inch my way to
them. Went to Harbor Freight today and got small clamps to hold the
canopy in place for gluing and found some cheap diamond cutters to use on
the canopy. |
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Trimming
the canopy 1/4" at a time. But. it's coming into shape. It's
almost trimmed enough to rest on the roll bar. The diamond cutters used in
a Dremel-type tool works good for cutting the plexi. I use a shop vac
while making the cut to keep the dust and debris to a minimum.
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Okay.
Lesson learned. Never lift your canopy alone.
I
made the final fitting cut and was lifting the canopy onto the fuselage for the
final fitting before quitting for the night. I know I should never do
anything critical late at night when I'm tired. Anyway, I put too much
pressure on the side and POP! - it broke!!
My
heart sank. After hours of trimming and fitting and now this.
I've
already sent an email to Todd Silver of Todd's Canopies to see how much it will
cost for a new one.
Damn!
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Opened the Todd's canopy box to discover
it is longer than the original canopy and the windscreen is more sloped.
It is also darker than I expected. On the phone, Todd told me that someone
convinced him several years ago to make the windscreen 2.5 inches longer than
Van's. Personally I'd prefer an exact duplicate of Van's canopy, but I can
work with this one.
Began trimming the new canopy, but
something just didn't seem right. A little investigation discovered that
about 4 years ago I mounted the canopy slider 0.10 inches off center to the
right. That doesn't sound like much, but it is just enough to make fitting
the canopy more difficult than it needs to be. We could make it work, but
I'm just not happy with it. Nelson suggested that we could remove and
remount the slider by riveting in new metal for those slider mounting screws
that needed to be moved. That is what we're going to do. I cannot
figure out why I mounted the slider a tenth of an inch too far to the
right. Once corrected, I will resume the canopy trimming and fitting.
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Worked on trimming the canopy and
fitting the oil door. The canopy takes many iterations of trimming and
fitting. After about five trimmings today, I think one more will do it and
we can drill some holes to fix the canopy location. That will make it
easier to get the canopy back in the same spot each time. We will also cut
the windscreen away from the canopy then. Tomorrow I'll make a carrier for
the canopy frame to make handling it easier.
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We used the canopy shipping box to hold it inverted while
trimming the edge.

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More canopy trimming. The fit
seems to be different each time we trim and fit. After a full day of
trimming, we finally reached a point where we're ready to drill alignment holes
to fix the canopy location. Now I'm contemplating using a number of screws
with a grommet or rubber washer between the plexi and the bow/frame in addition
to the Sikaflex adhesive.
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Started out trimming the canopy again.
We have it resting on the roll bar and we looked at using only Sikaflex to
attach it, but I believe it will be easier to set the canopy location by
drilling some alignment holes. Also, I'd like to mechanically attach
the plexi by using a few screws along with the Sikaflex. So, I
ordered some small grommets to fit between the plexi and the metal
tube. We'll follow up with Sikaflex to secure it all. But, we
can't progress on the canopy until the grommets arrive. |
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| The canopy frame is clumsy to handle and it
will become even more so once the plexi and skirt are added, so I copied
an idea from another guy's web site to make a canopy carrier. |
Made it from 2x2 lumber and two 1/2"
carriage bolts. The aft end of the frame simply rests on the
vertical support. I could drill a hole for it to rest in, but I
think I'll let that wait until after painting the frame. |
The carrier provides a storage spot for the
skirt until it's attached. Here the frame is taped with vinyl tape
and ready for painting the interior color. When the tape is removed
the original sanded powder coat is exposed for the Sikaflex to adhere to. |
It's the day before Christmas - and we
made the BIG CUT. Everything was ready and no reason to wait, so we
positioned the canopy for the last time, drilled a few alignment holes, clecoed
on the canopy and cut the slider portion away from the windscreen. I'm
glad that's done. Next we'll start fitting the skirt and prepping for the
Sikaflex canopy adhesion. I'm going to use some screws in the windscreen
to attach it to the roll bar, but most of the canopy will be attached using only
adhesive.
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| We drilled all the
windscreen holes and tapped part of them. It looks like the 3/16"
grommets will work good for attaching the windscreen and allowing space for the
Sikaflex adhesive to fill in. |
We drilled holes for a handle in the roll
bar and installed it. |
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I decided to make my own wooden mold to make
a fiberglass glare shield on. The others I've seen were a bit too
high for me and the center section wasn't wide enough. Plus they
didn't allow enough room under them to hide the GPS antennae, so I'm
making my own. When it's finished we'll tape it, add mold release,
and layup a fiberglass glare shield. By designing my own, I can
accommodate the LED flood lights and avoid hiding any cockpit
displays. I could also mount warning lights, switches, AOA or other
things there, but for now, I don't plan to have anything mounted in the
edge of the glare shield. |
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| After gluing the middle flat portion, I made
side pieces to fit and glued them on with Gorilla Glue. |
After removal from the airplane it was still
a bit rough, but sturdy. |
I had to do some sanding to make both sides
symmetrical and to even out the edges. Also had to trim the leading
edge to fit behind the windscreen. I have to trim it some more then
we'll tape it off and lay glass over it. |
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I gradually sanded and filed the wood
mold into the desired shape. I wanted room under the glare shield
for two GPS antennae and the MRX antenna. Plus it will shield the
panel LED flood lights. |
I had to cut down the forward edges
some more and do mare sanding, but it is finally getting close to the
final shape. The center aft edge is split and drilled to clamp to
the top fuselage skin. |
We draped fiberglass over the glare
shield and cut it to shape. We cut three layers. |
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Along the aft edges we allowed enough
glass to wrap up under the edges. |
We completely taped the wooden mold
and the fuselage so the resin won't adhere. Here the 3 layers of
glass are finished and we added peal ply to absorb excess resin, create a
smoother finish, and hold the glass under the aft edges. We taped
the peal ply underneath to hold the glass until it cures. |
The forward edges weren't perfect, but
they should be fine with a little work. Later I'll add about four
screws with standoffs to hold the shield in place. |
We
must be getting better at fiberglass work because both the intake glass and the
glare shield glass have turned out well. Getting the glare shield glass
off the airplane took a few minutes, but with determination it finally came off.
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| Here is the fiberglass glare shield just
after we took it off the plane. |
It needs some trimming, but overall, it
turned out very nice. |
I had drilled two alignment holes on
centerline and inserted #40 screws to pull the wood mold tight to the
fuselage knowing that we could use them for final attachment to the
fuselage. Here we have awls through the holes. This is after
the initial trimming. For some reason, I didn't take a shot after
the final trimming. |
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| We've installed the nutplates for the
mounting screws using pop rivets and the GPS antennae are mounted.
The MRX antenna is next and all will be hidden by the glare shield. |
To keep the fiberglass from pulling down when
the mounting screws are inserted, we needed standoffs to take the
pressure. One was 0.62 in. long and the other was 0.60.
They're made from aluminum tubing and are attached with Goop. |
The only shot after the final trimming.
It shows another view of the standoffs and where slurry was added inside
where the screws holding the wooden mold in place had left their
mark. We'll sand them back down and they will disappear. We
trimmed the glare shield until it would fit with the windscreen in place
so it will be removable in the future. |
Got a bit more done on the glare shield. Added the MRX antenna and sanded
down the glare shield. Ordered a MRX antenna extender.
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| Here are all of the planned antennae as they
will be mounted. The GPS antennae are for the EFIS One and EFIS Lite
and the little "finger" antenna is for the Zaon MRX. |
Here it is with the glare shield in
place. The MRX antenna has to protrude through the glare shield and
I've centered it on the glare shield. |
Here is an overview of the glare
shield. Hopefully the MRX antenna won't be too bothersome.
There will be multiple LED flood lights under the glare shield to light up
the panel when needed. |
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added some slurry under the glare shield to support the sides of the shield and
will drill it and the upper skin in assembly and add a nutplate to the
skin. That way the glare shield will have four attachment points.
We got the windscreen permanently mounted on the airplane
using a combination of screws and Sikaflex adhesive.
I
decided that if I'm going to make the "hat shelf" for the canopy that
I need to get after it and get it done so we can move on to other things.
So, today I jumped on it and made a mold and we laid fiberglass. That will
be set tomorrow and we can move on with gluing on the sliding canopy.
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some 1/8" plywood (actually door veneer) and a particle board
shelf. I took measurements and knew that I needed to bring the hat
shelf forward of the cross tube on which the canopy slider is mounted by
0.9 inches. Also, the shelf needed to be 0.7 inches thick at the
leading edge. The goal of this "shelf" is to block the
reverse airflow that bothers rear seat riders and is common to RV-8s. |
This photo is after the clamps in the left
photo were removed, but you can see how the particle board was cut and the
veneer rough cut to size. After the glue set I trimmed the excess
wood and filed and sanded the piece smooth. |
This is the mold after final sanding and
shaping. My plan is to mold the fiberglass under the leading edge
and use that lip to attach weatherstrip to stop the down-the-neck air on
the RCP passenger. During cold weather or high altitude flight, the
cold air coming in is uncomfortable and it is difficult to get enough warm
air to the RCP for comfort. |
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| Whenever I'm laying fiberglass I tape off
everything I don't want the glass to stick to. In this case, I don't
want it to stick to anything, so everything is taped with clear packing
tape. |
Even though formed and clamped, the mold did
not want to sit down on the frame, so the tape was used to pull down the
sides of the veneer. |
An ugly shot, but it shows how the shelf will
fit on the aft portion of the canopy frame. |
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| We laid on four layers of S glass and E glass
and topped it with peel ply. The peel ply is taped tight underneath
to form the leading edge as desired. |
We were running out of cloth so I had to
piece some together on the second layer which left a long bump across the
piece. I will sand it down smooth. |
Another ugly shot, but it shows how the peal
ply is taped to hold the cloth in place while curing. The sides and
trailing edge don't need to be taped under because they will be cut away. |
We removed the hat shelf from the
canopy frame and trimmed it, refitted it to the canopy and poured in some slurry
to create a "hold down" shape such that when the shelf is put into
place, it will grab the canopy tube to hold itself in place.
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Right out of the mold, the shelf looked a
little raggy, but it had formed well and looks suitable for use. |
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Left I've trimmed it and refitted to
the canopy frame after taping the frame. I built an aluminum dam and
poured in some slurry. After curing, it will fit tight on the tubing
to hold the shelf in place.
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Pulled the shelf off the canopy frame and cleaned up both. Then added some
more glass on the shelf so I can shape it the way I want. With the resin
added to grab the tubing at the trailing edge, the shelf is heavier than I
expected, so I ground off a lot of the resin to reduce weight. I next need
to drill the attachment holes and figure out how to mount the weatherstripping.
Then we're on to gluing on the slider canopy.
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canopy today, but the temp didn't get as high as expected so we decided to
postpone until tomorrow. Was just as well because the shelf needed
more work and needed trimming. So added slurry and let it cure and
sanded back down. Attached it to the frame using two #6 SS screws
through the existing gussets. |
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We fully taped the frame with blue masking
tape but not up to the adhesive line. Then we added white vinyl tape
to the adhesive line. The idea is that the blue tape will keep the
frame clean and the vinyl tape can be pulled off as soon as the adhesive
skins over.
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The canopy carrier is very handy to work on
and move the canopy on.
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Next we did the same taping on the plexiglas.
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I forgot to take a photo, but we applied the
Sika Cleaner and Sika Primer before mating the canopy to the frame.
We clecoed and clamped it together with 3/16" rubber spacer in
between. The rubber spacers are small and will remain imbedded in
the adhesive.
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It's easy to see the black primer painted on
inside the canopy.
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Then I crawled inside and applied the
adhesive with a caulk gun. FYI, a pneumatic caulk gun does not work
with the Sikaflex caulk tube. I bought one just for this job, but
there is not sufficient seal for it to work.
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Left, after applying the adhesive to the top
and bottom of the frame tubes, we made a fillet using a finger. The
fillet is mostly smooth.
To right is diagram from the plans. Notice the
C-670 bushing that fits into the spacer and it all goes inside the
roller. Well, don't make the mistake I did and leave out the
bushing. It works, but is sloppy and we wondered for a long time why
it was so sloppy. Today we discovered the error and unfortunately,
it slightly affected our measurements and how the canopy fit - by about
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| We split the skirt down the trailing edge and worked
with the left and right halves. That made the work much easier and we have
a lot of glass work to do on the trailing edge anyway. We trimmed the
skirt front edge to match the skin below the windscreen and trimmed the bottom
edge to match with the edge of the overlapping skin along the fuselage
side. We drilled all of the rivet holes in the skirt and frame below the
canopy - we're not going to put any rivets through the canopy. |
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More fitting of the canopy skirt. It
does not want to lie flat around the back. So, we used a heat gun and made
good improvement on the fit. Also sanded the inside to make them sit more
flush on the fuselage. Where the skirt parts were originally put together,
there is an area much thicker and stiffer than other portions which make shaping
the skirt tough. Sanded those down to make them as thin as the rest of the
glass.
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it in the back which makes handling the skirt much easier. |
The normal open position will stop just short
of the empennage fairing. |
If the canopy is allowed to slide all the way
back, the handle will hit the bulkhead behind the aft seat. So,
we'll add a stop to avoid that problem. |
Okay - the secret to fitting Van's canopy
skirt is grinding - the inside of the skirt - not the outside. Forget
about working on the outside of the skirt for awhile and, instead, work on the
inside. There are multiple fiberglass lap joints in the skirt that are the
result of the manufacturing process. You need to grind them down until the
surface is flat. Don't be bashful about removing material. Then use
a heat gun to shape the fiberglass to fit the way you need. Use pieces of
lumber - any size (I used 2x2s) - and cut 1.5" - 2" slots in the end
grain to slip over the edges of the fiberglass to apply pressure while heating
the skirt. Take your time and gradually shape the skirts. Mine
is beginning to fit.
We spent another hour or more using the heat
gun to tweak the edges of the skirt until we thought we had reached a point of
diminishing returns. So, we decided to lay fiberglass under the skirt to
fill the remaining gap. Also I'd decided I wanted to make the skirt
profile on my RV match that of Hale's of Tulsa which fills in the
"cutout" area at the lower aft portion. So, we added in some
glass for that and also connected the two skirts back into one by putting glass
across the split at the trailing edge.
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| It's easy to see the gap around the edge of
the skirt. It seemed the best way to fill that gap was to fill it
with fiberglass. |
So, we cut 3 strips 6" x 36" for
each side to fill the gap and extend the fiberglass skirt lower. We
also added 3 layers of S glass across the split in the rear to reconnect
the skirt sides. |
Of course the fuselage was taped to prevent
epoxy from sticking to it. We laid the glass on the inside of each
skirt and then clecoed them to the canopy frame. Then we added some
more the the outside and topped it with peal ply. |
We popped off the skirt, trimmed it, and it
still didn't fit as snug as I wanted. So, I decided to add some micro
slurry under the edge of the skirt. I suspect there are two reasons the
skirt didn't lay as flat as I wanted - the thickness of the tape used to protect
the fuselage and the tendency for the original skirt to seek its normal position
despite being taped down.
We smeared some mold release on the fuselage
and added slurry under the edge of the skirt. Later I'll add some
weatherstrip to help seal the bottom edge of the skirt. Also, added some
slurry to fill low spots on the outside of the skirt.
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The skirt after
adding the glass under the trailing edges. I drew a pencil line on
the fuselage tape for the cut line and it transferred to the glass. |
The skirt after
trimming. Notice the skirt no longer has the typical Van's curve to
wrap around the fuselage. I cut a V in the trailing edge for the
empennage fairing and we'll make the fit nice later. |
The gap along the
lower aft edge was still too great, so we added micro slurry to fill the
gap. I'll sand it as necessary and continue to add micro to the top
surface until it is smooth. |
Sanded the skirt to shape and we have to do
one more round of filling and sanding before using Sikaflex and CS 4-4 rivets to
secure the it to the canopy frame. We added the slurry tonight and we'll
sand and prime tomorrow before gluing the skirt on.
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Upper left - you can
clearly see where I added fiberglass and slurry to create a curve on the
skirt instead of the normal Van's cutout.
Above - slurry was
added to fill the area around the slider and fiberglass across the top to
close the gap.
Upper right -
overview of the work.
Left - The first of
many vinyl tape layers to do the windscreen fiberglass.
Right- we moved the
plane out in the sun to cure the resin more quickly. |
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We resanded the skirt - put on more
fiberglass - sanded some more - filled pinholes - sanded some more - primed -
filled pinholes - sanded - and then, finally, glued the skirt to the canopy.
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Right - We had to add some glass to
the left side of the skirt to make both sides
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| We added lots of slurry to fill pinholes. |
We put vinyl tape along the canopy and the
skirt where the Sikaflex adhesive was to go. That way we could make
a small fillet, remove the tape and have a clean job. |
You can't tell in this photo, but the gluing
is done and the tape removed. We'll see how well we did
tomorrow. We're going to rivet the lower skirt to the frame. |
I decided to do the windscreen frame layup and then
remove it, do the finish work, and reinstall it. The main advantage to
that approach is not having to worry about scratching the canopy while sanding
the glass. Normally, the major disadvantage would be a potential loss of
strength. In my case, loss of strength is not an issue since the
windscreen is already secured with both Sikaflex and screws.
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Left - Clecos are holding the skirt in
place and initial taping is started.
Right - All CS4-4 rivets are holding
the skirt in place.
Three shots below - taping is complete
for laying the windscreen fiberglass. I used vinyl electrical tape
to define the fiberglass edges. |
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Above - clear packing tape was used to
keep resin out of the openings
Below - Nelson and I are applying peel
ply. |
Above - across the top of the canopy I
used three layers of two inch wide fiberglass tape along with two layers
of carbon fiber. I should have cut the carbon on the bias because it
tends to unravel more than fiberglass cloth.
Below - peel ply was applied over all
the glass. |
Above - I added some black pigment to
the resin mixture because several guys said they wished they had done that
so the ugly inside of the fiberglass doesn't show.
The peel ply will make a nicer finish
and soak up excess resin.
Below - we'll let it sit overnight and
pop it off tomorrow. |
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The windscreen frame
came loose easily and I trimmed it. Then I sanded down the high
spots and added micro slurry to fill pinholes and other low spots.
I forgot to take a photo before
trimming the frame, but got one after trimming and adding the slurry.
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We sanded down the windscreen frame and put
on more micro and then, late in the day, sanded it down again. We also
sanded the canopy skirt.
Spent most of the day filling and sanding
pinholes in the windscreen frame. It seemed like every time we filled some
pinholes and sanded it flush, more pinholes appeared. We finally tackled
all of them and attached the frame to the windscreen. We also filled and sanded the canopy skirt.
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Left - Fitted
the frame several times in between filling and sanding. We drilled
#40 holes (later opened to #30) and used clecos to hold the frame tight.
Right - We
removed the frame and primed the plexiglass and the inside of the
frame. The plan was to adhere the frame to the canopy with Sikaflex
and to the fuselage with fiberglass resin slurry and later add fiberglass
to feather into the fuselage. The clecos allowed us to accurately
reposition the frame each time and later we'll fill the holes with CS 4-4
pop rivets and glass over. |

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The
windscreen frame was glued on using Sikaflex and fiberglass resin.
The clecos worked well to hold the frame and the clamps across the top
ensure no movement until everything cures. |
A side view and ... |
a front view with the frame installed. |
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We applied resin from the curve in the
frame down to the bottom and Sikaflex above that. |
The clecos were dipped in mold release
before inserting them. The resin under the frame is easily seen and
the Sikaflex oozed out along the top edge. |
We'll do lots of finishing to make the
frame look good. |
We removed the clecos from the windscreen frame and sanded it
down on the leading edges of the frame to almost flush so we could add
fiberglass to blend into the fuselage. We pulled off the slider and taped
it off for exterior primer. Then there will be more filling of pinholes
and sanding.
After sanding the windscreen frame we
riveted the cleco alignment holes and added two layers of glass to ease the
abrupt leading edge of the frame and two more thin layers to cover it all.
Tomorrow we'll sand it smooth and flush and start the pinhole filling.
Hopefully the canopy will be essentially done by this time next week.
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The windscreen frame after yesterday's
glue and resin attachment. The fit is very good and the adhesive
edges are okay. We slid the canopy forward and it fit very
good. Here we've added the rivets and put some resin on the frame
and fuselage to prepare for the final layers of glass. |

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The first two layers of glass were on
the fuselage and butted up to the forward edge of the frame. They
are to ease the step down from frame to fuselage. The next two
layers were light cloth and covered from above the rivets down onto the
fuselage so we can blend the transition. |

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